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Trump Tells Georgia Election Official To ‘Find’ Votes To Overturn Biden Win

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US President Donald Trump has been recorded telling Georgia’s top election official to “find” enough votes to overturn the election result.

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“I just want to find 11,780 votes,” Mr Trump told Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in a recording released by the Washington Post.

Mr Raffensperger is heard replying that Georgia’s results are correct.

Joe Biden won Georgia alongside other swing states, winning 306 electoral college votes to Mr Trump’s 232.

Vice-president-elect Kamala Harris called Mr Trump’s comments “a bold abuse of power”.

It comes ahead of two crucial runoff elections in Georgia on Tuesday that will decide which party controls the Senate.

Since the 3 November vote, Mr Trump has been making unsubstantiated allegations of widespread electoral fraud.

All 50 states have certified the election result, some after recounts and legal appeals.

Congress is due to formally approve the election result on 6 January and Mr Biden, a Democrat, is due to be inaugurated as president on 20 January.

All 10 living former US defence secretaries have urged President Trump not to question the election results in an opinion piece for the Washington Post. The group also said he should not involve the military in voting disputes, an idea that’s been mooted by some of Mr Trump’s supporters.

What happened during the Trump call?

In excerpts of Saturday’s phone call released by the Washington Post, Mr Trump can be heard alternately cajoling and pressurising Georgia’s secretary of state.

He insisted that he had won the election in Georgia and told Mr Raffensperger that there was “nothing wrong with saying you have recalculated”.

Mr Raffensperger responded by saying: “The challenge you have, Mr President, is that the data you have is wrong.”

Later in the call, Mr Trump said the rumour was that ballots had been shredded and voting machinery had been removed from Fulton County in the state – claims denied by Mr Raffensperger’s lawyer.media captionWhat’s in store for US President-elect Biden in 2021? Senior North America reporter Anthony Zurcher looks ahead

The president then threatened the official with possible legal consequences.

“You know what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a criminal offence. You can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer,” Mr Trump said.

He then called for the extra 11,780 votes – which would have given him a total of 2,473,634 votes in the state, one more than Mr Biden, who received 2,473,633 votes.

He told Mr Raffensperger he should re-examine the result in the state.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on 7 Dec 2020
Brad Raffensperger previously warned that debunked claims about voting fraud were “hurting our state”

“You can re-examine it, but re-examine it with people who want to find answers, not people who don’t want to find answers,” he said.

“Mr President, you have people who submit information and we have our people that submit information, and then it comes before the court and the court has to make a determination,” Mr Raffensperger replied. “We have to stand by our numbers, we believe our numbers are right.”

Mr Trump also warned Mr Raffensperger that by refusing to recalculate the election result he would deter Republicans from turning out to vote in Tuesday’s runoff elections for the Senate.

If the two Democratic contenders win, then there will be equal numbers of Republican and Democratic senators, and Kamala Harris, as vice-president-elect, will have the deciding vote.

Mr Biden’s Democrats already control the lower House of Representatives.

On Sunday Mr Trump tweeted that Mr Raffensperger had not given details of the fraud the president alleges. “He has no clue!” the president tweeted.

Mr Raffensperger tweeted back: “Respectfully, President Trump: What you’re saying is not true. The truth will come out.”

The White House has not commented on the release of the audio.

Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin, a Democrat, said Mr Trump was “unhinged and dangerous” and that his call to Mr Raffensperger merited “nothing less than a criminal investigation”.

Moderate Republican Adam Kinzinger also tweeted: “This is absolutely appalling. To every member of Congress considering objecting to the election results, you cannot – in light of this – do so with a clean conscience.”

When will the election result be certified?

There is a developing split in the Republican party after 11 senators said they would not vote to certify Mr Biden’s election victory in a Senate session on 6 January.

Ted Cruz led the group of senators, calling for a 10-day delay to audit unsubstantiated allegations of election fraud.

Vice-President Mike Pence – who as president of the Senate is due to oversee the session and declare Mr Biden the winner – said he welcomed the move.

He stopped short of repeating allegations of fraud but his chief of staff said Mr Pence shared what he called “the concerns of millions of Americans about voter fraud and irregularities”.

Meanwhile, four Republican senators including Mitt Romney have signed a statement saying they will vote to certify Mr Biden’s win.

Top Republicans have said the Senate’s role in certifying the election is largely ceremonial and should not be an opportunity for further lengthy debate about the result.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has already recognised Mr Biden’s victory and asked other Republicans not to object.

A group of Republicans in the lower chamber of Congress, the House of Representatives, is also planning to contest the election results.

On Sunday a new Congress convened for the first time, with senators and representatives being sworn in. Democrat Nancy Pelosi was narrowly re-elected as House Speaker.

What will happen on 6 January?

Objections that are endorsed by a member of the House of Representatives and a member of the Senate must be considered by lawmakers in a two-hour debate, followed by a vote.

However, for an objection to be upheld, a majority in both chambers must vote in favour. Republicans hold the majority in the Senate but some of their number have already said they will not contest the results.

Democrats are in the majority in the House.

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